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Is my breast cancer upsetting you?

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When Alicia Staley, a 37-year-old systems analyst from Boston got the news that she had cancer, she knew she was in for an emotional rollercoaster. But she assumed she'd be the one riding it, not her friends.

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Meezermom

At least you get some sympathy with breast cancer! With lung cancer all you get is comments like "you deserve it for smoking"! Well, I never smoked a day in my life and got lung cancer from second hand smoke! It joins the brain tumor and several other severe health issues and all I get from my mother is comments that if I lost weight I wouldn't have gotten cancer. People can be very insensitive about cancer and other health issues. And I am not buying they don't know how to deal with it. We are expected to deal with everyone else's issues, just once in awhile it would be nice to have some compassion come our way.

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Reply#1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
redthunder

I agree completely with Meezermom. I suffer from severe, treatment-resistant depression - an illness you can't see - and I am so sick of defending or explaining myself and my health issues. I recently had a Jesus freak say to me over and over "You don't look sick to me." and then told me that my problems were "blessings" and suggested I "read his word".

You get NO sympathy for depression unless someone has been through it. And as far as people not knowing how to deal with something - I don't know what it's like to deal with cancer, heart disease, stroke, etc, but I know it can't be pleasant and I know people are suffering, so I have a lot of sympathy for them. And I don't say stupid things like "cheer up" or "life is beautiful".

Also, people with cancer and other physical diseases usually get the treatment they need. I have been completely cut off from other treatment alternatives by Medicare. If medications and ECT don't work for you, you're left to suffer. I don't mean to minimize or disregard cancer and other terrible illnesses, but at least you usually get some decent health care. (If you have good health insurance, but I won't even go down that road.)

This country and its health care system is so pathetic! If you don't have a lot of money, you're left to rot in the gutter!

    #1.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:45 AM EDT
    TigerGuardian

    I have never had cancer and can not even imagine what you are going through.  I do want to say that anyone who makes ignorant comments about illness they have never experiences are idiots.  No one deserves cancer even if you did smoke.  Cancer treatment is often as bad as the disease it's self therefore it is only natural to be depressed as you are going through hell.  I know it's easy for me to say just ignore stupid people because I am not not experiencing what you are but I am going to say it anyway.  Do not give ignorant people the power to bring you down.  The only thing you need to worry about is getting better.

      #1.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:28 PM EDT
      Lester Hughes

      I totally agree with you. My wife has head and neck cancer that is now in her lungsand we have been fighting it for almost 9 years alone. There is no one out beating a drum to help her. All you ever hear about is breast cancer this and breast cancer that. Even in the oncology clinic its all the reading material is about breast or prostate cancer. People either are insensitive to you or don't know what to say at all. My wife is a trooper. She has and is still enduring chemo therapies that have never been tried in hopes that if it can't cure her then hopefully it will allow someone else not to have to go through the hell that she has
      I wish that all these celebrities would band have shows about cancer in general instead of just jumping on the band wagon of breast cancer. My wife lives a very lonely existence because she is too tired from the chemo to do anything and all her friends if that is what you want to call them don't have time.

        #1.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
        Lester Hughes

        I totally agree with you. My wife has head and neck cancer that is now in her lungsand we have been fighting it for almost 9 years alone. There is no one out beating a drum to help her. All you ever hear about is breast cancer this and breast cancer that. Even in the oncology clinic its all the reading material is about breast or prostate cancer. People either are insensitive to you or don't know what to say at all. My wife is a trooper. She has and is still enduring chemo therapies that have never been tried in hopes that if it can't cure her then hopefully it will allow someone else not to have to go through the hell that she has
        I wish that all these celebrities would band have shows about cancer in general instead of just jumping on the band wagon of breast cancer. My wife lives a very lonely existence because she is too tired from the chemo to do anything and all her friends if that is what you want to call them don't have time.

          #1.4 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:04 PM EDT
          Chris Moyer

          Dear Lester,

          Chris again, I don't know what happened, in the middle of the last message, my computer freaked out, and quit.  Anyways as I was saying, I also have head and neck cancer.  I found a grape size lymph node in november of 07, and finally was able to get it removed and diagnosed in April 08.  I got halfway thru the treatment protocol and landed in the hospital for two weeks with multiple organ failure, dehydration and under nourishment;  I had lost over 60 pounds, and had been unable to obtain home iv and other nutritional resources to support my bodies needs during chemo.  Now as a further Chemo complication, I have a nasty fungal lung infection which will prevent me from resuming treatment for 4 to 6 months.  I have only been dealing with this for 11 months, and cannot begin to imagine the strength and courage required to wage this battle for nine years.  You have my greatest respect and I must say I take inspiration from your message.  This article was interesting to me because it touches on many of the issues which have been part of my experience.  I am a husband and father of five, ages 18 months to 17 years.  Just over one month ago, my wife left me and our home.  Prior to this she had been displaying more and more anger and interacting less with me, and staying away from home more under the guise of running errands.  After she left, I realized that she had been struggling deeply to be here with me and the effects of my illness.  As some of the other contributors to this column have noted my older children seemed angry with me as well, and they seemed hellbent on taking it out on me in my hour of need, and at a time when time to heal and rebuild relationships could turn out to be cut short. This article and this column help me to gain insight and understanding into my family's behaviors and will perhaps help me to forgive them and move forward, hopefully with enough maturity to overlook their angry attacks (ongoing)and build bonds and memories.  Fortunately I have been blessed to have good friends both in church and at work who have really stepped up to pitch in and help out;  If it weren't for them, I don't know what kind of shape I'd be in now.  

          I would be interested to hear from you and others, strategies to deal with and get past some of these family issues, which seem to run as a not too uncommon thread in cancer patients' lives.

          God bless and keep you all strong and on the path to good health

            #1.5 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
            Chris Moyer

            Sorry Lester,

            The first part of my message was cut off.  I just wanted to say that the courage and strength that this nine year battle must have required is staggering.  My hat is off and my heart goes out to you and your wife and family.  I wanted to also add that as a patient, I always appreciated the little effforts my family made, even though at the time it may not have been readily apparent to them.  Sometimes it's difficult to adequately show appreciation when you feel like poop,  or what sounds good at one moment, is totally unappealing when later delivered/received.

            Best wishes and God's blessings

              #1.6 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
              Louisiana native101

              There are a lot of people who have cancer that have never smoked, but grew up exposed to second hand smoke.  A very dear friend of mine is an example of this fact.  After a very long and couragous fight she is no longer with us.

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              #1.7 - Wed Oct 8, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
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              peachpit

              When I was diagnosed with breast cancer I didn't realize that I was going to have two problems - breast cancer AND a family who had a family member with cancer. My fragility was stained trying to take care of them and warding off their upset. There was actually a third problem and that was friends seemed to want to share cancer horror stories they knew of. I finally realized that in their discomfort they didn't know what else to talk about. I survived it all and am stronger for it.

                Reply#2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:03 AM EDT
                Tom-597626

                I know the hardest words I have heard was on Aug 26th of this year that I had breast cancer, I am one 2000 men diagnosed yearly with breast cancer, it was even harder to tell my wife, she is putting up a good front, but I hear her crying, I have seen the puffy eyes, the doctors have told me, all should be okay but we all know there is nothing for certain, my best little helper is my little 6 year daughter, she knows I have cancer, but not how bad it could be she is always by my side asking if she can help me with anything, always wanting to help me feel better. my wife is a strong person, but this is being very hard on her, probably more than me, I try not to burden her, doing as much as I can for myself, but I feel she thinks I am keeping her out of the loop, just the oposite, trying to show her I am okay and we will be okay, not sure what else I can do to make it easier on her, a couple of our friends have asked about her, but again what you can do to make it easier on the family

                  Reply#3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:21 AM EDT
                  Meezermom

                  Tom, I will keep you in my thoughts......breast cancer in men is not a joke or anything else. Too often, men treat it like a big hysterical laugh at another man's expense. You have a great deal to handle and you are starting out with this. I will wish you good health and a cure for your daughter...she deserves to have her daddy walk her down the isle at her wedding....Be as strong as you can, and as weak as you need to be. Don't fear crying, your loved ones will understand. For now, there really isn't anything you can do to make this easier on your family. Just being there and loving them is good. Talk to them and give them memories of your past. These are gifts you are giving as well as your time. Those of us with cancer get no certainties in life. I do feel you will be a success story.... and remind your wife that she needs to cry with you, not behind your back. It isn't a burden to share this with her and share the fear... all my hopes and dreams go with you......be at peace

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                  #3.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
                  Louisiana native101

                  My thought and prayers are with all of you.  Please remember that you are not alone.  The medical field has made some remarkable progress since then. 

                  We had a older male first cousin with breast cancer in the early 80's.  My mom was diagnosed in 1996 with breast cancer (she is still cancer free today) and my older sister just recently in May 2008.  She is going through chemo now and surgery before the end of the year.

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                  #3.2 - Wed Oct 8, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
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                  Lily-597740

                  Meezermom - I am sorry that anyone would treat you with such coldness. Smoker or not - no one deserves to suffer lung cancer.
                  Yes, being overweight can impact your health - this is true, but for someone who is not a Dr to tell you that your weight is the cause of all your issues is plain mean and throughly unhelpful.
                  I apologize if I am too forward - is your brain tumor cancer as well?
                  I ask because I too have a brain tumor, however I am fortunate that it is not cancer. BUT that doesn't mean it is not dangerous to me - it poses a serious threat to my eyesight and pituitary function. I must have a crainiotomy to have it removed, no through the nose or corotid artery for me.
                  This will be the second go around for me with this tumor and with managing everyone else's fears.
                  C'est la Vie I guess.
                  I wish you all the best as you strive to recover from your illness - I urge you to seek friendship outside of your normal circle - with other patients and survivors
                  Seek friendship from yourself. What I mean is to look inward and appreciate yourself, draw strength from within - when someone is mean or cold or indifferent or makes you feel like you don't count- remember that it is their crap, not yours. They cannot deal so they respond inappropriatly
                  If you need to cry about what someone says to you - go ahead, get it out and then move on. Life is too short without any health challenges - don't spend your time worrying about people who can't get out of their own way so they try to get in your way too to keep you in their miserable circle.
                  And believe me I cannot follow my own advice every day and I am cynical to the max on most days - but I try to remember that I count and it helps
                  My Best,
                  Lily

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                  Reply#4 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:56 AM EDT
                  Meezermom

                  Hi Lily, No,, my brain tumor is not cancerous but it is growing slowly... It is not in a good place for surgery and the neuro at this point really does not want to go in. The funny thing is, 6 years ago I was in great health. Then the discovery of the brain tumor and a few months later a chance xray for something else totally caught a tiny shadow and my dr decided to send me for a chest xray and they found the cancer! Since then, they did a lung resection and there have been approximately 13 operations since! It is my mother who insists that there is nothing wrong with me that losing weight won't fix... It will stop the headaches and seizures, the pain, and everything else and I really don't need to have surgery anyway. I am just looking for attention!  I guess at 90 she simply cannot or will not face reality anymore...

                  I count, you count, we all count and we are stronger together and can remember that in our own way, we matter because we are here...

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                  #4.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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                  toots535

                  Not mentioned in the article, but touched on, is the terrible time drain that "keeping everyone in the loop" is. There just isn't enough time!

                  I was fortunate to be referred to caringbridge.org, a free ewebsite that allows you to set up an interactive journal. I urge all who have ongoing health issies in the family to look into it. No strings.

                  It has been a real blessing. And it saves so much time, I don't leave someone out, plus it takes the burden off other family members who try to take over the 'information officer' role. Visitors to the journal can leave messages and photos to share.

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                  Reply#5 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 12:01 PM EDT
                  pros63

                  Please believe me when I say I mean absolutely no disrespect to those with Breast Cancer; but, I am a woman in my 40's who was diagnosed in July 2007 with Rectal Cancer and from day one I have not been able to understand why Breast Cancer gets sooo much more attention. ALL Cancers are horrible and need to be addressed the same. It should not matter if it was caused from a lifestyle choice or inherited. Everyone who is diagnosed with whatever type of cancer is terrified and forced to face their own mortality. All loved ones, co-workers, family, friends, etc., react the same to every type of cancer.

                  In Short, if we are talking emotional affects, all cancers need to be treated as one.

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                  Reply#6 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:02 PM EDT
                  julie-spouse

                  I agree wholeheartedly.

                    #6.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
                    carla-599104

                    I agree whole heartedly.  I am a cancer survivor - Uterine cancer.  Why is every article that addresses cancer in women geared toward breast cancer.  Mine was just as emotional and devasting. 

                    I do agree with the article in becoming the care giver.  I had to be the strong one while my husband fell apart.

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                    #6.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 6:02 PM EDT
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                    Liz-597973

                    How true this article is.  After diagnosis, I spent more time putting a smile on my face and making rote upbeat comments about my condition than I did taking care of myself.  As much as I know my husband loves me, he was terrified and unable to offer me the support I needed.  In order not to make him he more frightened than he was, I smiled when he was around and cried in the shower.

                    Years later I became a support group facilitator and met with a group of men and women with different types of cancer on a weekly basis with a co-facilitator.  The same story was heard over and over; the patient became the care giver.

                    Reading this article makes me realize that little has changed in a decade.

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                    Reply#7 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:04 PM EDT
                    NJH-598003

                    Wow!  And I thought I was crazy.  Several years ago it was determined that I had a mass in my breast.  There is a history of breast cancer in my family so I prepared myself for the battle ahead as though the mass was cancerous.  I went in for a lumpectomy and was prepared to wake up either without a breast or a plan to fight it.  My family and husband were so odd when I felt I needed them most.  One daughter didn't call me at all, the other acted as if nothing was going on.  I had to calm my husband down at the hospital pre surgery.  I awoke to semi great news.  There were two masses and both appeared to be non cancerous, but I was diagnoised with the mutant gene that raised my chances to develope breast cancer even more.  This required me to visit an oncolgist who gave me the options of removing my breasts, taking tomaxifin or the conservative route of wait and see.  The day of the appointment my husband abandoned me to take our 18 year old to NYC for a fun day to sightsee and hang out. The decision was hard and scarry and I felt all alone. I was hurt and angry as I never left his side when he battled cancer a few year before.    I recently addressed this with him and his response was that he was remorseful and knew he was wrong but was so scared at the time and couldn't face the problem or me.

                    Now I know why they all acted like they did.

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                    Reply#8 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
                    Barb-599529

                    I also found my family unresponsive to my diagnosis--I'm the eldest of 6, expected to be critical caretaker of mom (because I'm an RN) by my family and, though I'm divorced and live alone in a new town 20 mins away, my family showed up only to see "proof" that I had cancer, ie. my bald head! This felt brutal and uncaring and I have a psychiatric degree (MSN) so I understand mom's "head in the sand" denial, my pregnant daughter's anger (It ALWAYS has to be about YOU!) and my sibling's abandonment after showing them "proof". I was left to "be positive" and get over it--on my own. In the 6 months of treatment, I had 2 other visits from my son, one from mom and one from my youngest brother. The next eldest brother asked if I needed a ride to chemo and when I accepted gratefully, he never talked to me about it again (so I had to get my own ride!) As you can "hear" this was very wounding and my primary fear was of dying alone without them knowing or caring.

                    However, good friends who rallied around me and alot of humor helped me to accept what was. It was what it was. The Saturday Night Live "Pat" character got uterine cancer a year after her brother came to live with her in New York City with his own terminal cancer. Her hilarious comic routine of what life was like when her parents decided they ALSO needed to move into her small abode (so she could sleep on the couch)- to be near their SON who had cancer, (not her)-got me to realize that my family would have been so needy and expected so much caretaking from me, that I had ACTUALLY been spared a bullet that my family left me alone!

                    My family now resents that I treasure the help my friends were to me (in their absence), but they were emotionally unavailable-for all manner of reasons. (Maybe because they were afraid that I would die!) Not unlike your husband. He LOVED you, but had to bail. (Right out of LOVE STORY, huh?) You both need to resolve it. My daughter tells me now, 10 years later, that she realizes that she should have been more supportive to me and that she "is mature enough now" that she thinks she would be. All this living counts as long as it brings growth and closeness. : )

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                    #8.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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                    CAROL-395816

                    I am a 20 year survivor of Stage I breast cancer.  In addition, I was the caregiver to my mother as she died from uterine cancer.   Thus, I know from experience that being the caregiver or bystander is harder than being the patient.  As the caregiver/bystander of a loved one, you feel so helpless, so alone.  As the patient, you are very involved in your own fight.  Please have patience with those who are your helpless-feeling friends.  They are truly suffering and grieving for you and their own loss of innocence and are trying to ease their own horrible and overwhelming feeling of helplessness.

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                    Reply#9 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:13 PM EDT
                    oh please-504237

                    Oh, men are such babies. What else could we expect?

                      Reply#10 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
                      kingkupkake

                      well then...u can expect a man to ask "WHO ARE YOU TO INSULT ME LIKE THAT"...my wife and daughter are disabled and i come thru day after day...changing non verbal 9yr olds diapers,10 or more a day, shoppin, cookin, laundry, doctor visits, therapy,hiding my misery from women who think they can TALK me into a better place"oh u r such an amazing husband and father...now dont u FEEL better?"bahhhhhh...IM A BIGGER MAN AND WOMEN THAN MOST...and yes oh please,some times I weep just like a baby...sorry to disgust you so!!!!

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                      #10.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:05 PM EDT
                      Meezermom

                      King, I get a smile from your comments! My husband is passive/aggressive and not only does nothing, he goes out of his way to cause trouble for me. However, I have three sons! One is a Paramedic and he goes with me to medical appointments and talks to the drs after surgery and handles the medical issues. One tends to sit quietly and call and panic! He fears it the most as he is first born. He is afraid of illness....but if I call, he is here. The other one bears the burden. He stays home giving up a job to deal with my needs. He is a professional chef so there is always good food. He cleans and does laundry and is there....Men can be just as good in care taking if they are brought right!

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                      #10.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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                      Gayle-324397

                      This article is sooo true.  I was diagnosed 2 years ago with Stage 2 Breast Cancer.  I immediately had a double mastectomy, then chemo, then radiation.  95% of my family and friends handled it much WORSE than I did.  I too spent my time being brave around everybody.  Heaven forbid anyone show me sympathy!!  My (grown) kids handled it by getting very angry with me, for everything I've done their entire lives.  During my treatments I was reminded of the things I did wrong starting back when they were in High School!  I spent alot of time defending myself and my actions to my kids, until I spoke with a counselor and she told me to quit looking for approval and to realize that I am the patient!  When I had my mammogram, they took me straight to the Ultrasound room.  The Radiologist told me it was CANCER.  I went out to the car and cried a little bit.  That was the only time I cried for my CANCER.  The rest of the time was spent putting up a good front for everyone else!  And everybody told me how great I was, how well I was handling the CANCER!  What else could I do?  I wasn't special because of the way I handled it.  I just handled it.  Both of my parents are passed.  If only they had been with me, I'm sure I wouldn't have handled it so well. (I wouldn't have HAD to).  But for their sake, I'm glad they didn't have to go thru that with me.   I'm also divorced, thank God.  He's the kind of man who would have hit the road!
                      And I also agree with the poster about ALL CANCER is BAD.  Breast Cancer gets alot of attention.  Maybe because soooo many of us get it.  But, when it comes down to it, CANCER IS CANCER, no matter where it is located in the body.
                      Yes, I found myself urging my loved ones and caregivers not to worry about me, I was doing just fine.  Believe me, my older brother shed many more tears over my CANCER than I did!
                      And I went by myself for EVERY TEST that I had, other than the sterotactic biopsy. I drove myself to almost radiation treatment. And to Chemo too. Of course that was my choice. My children have yet to talk to any of my doctors, other than right after the surgery!

                        Reply#11 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
                        Carol Ann-348003

                        Is this article about John and Elizabeth Edwards?

                          Reply#12 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
                          Gayle-324397

                          What? Why did you ask that?

                            #12.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:21 PM EDT
                            Carol Ann-348003

                            Only because of the cancer upsetting other people and how the cancer victim has to take care of others. I can not stand the man!

                              #12.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
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                              A-598308

                              I am a 23yr old, female, college student, military servicewoman -- and a 1 year survivor of Hodgkin's Lymphoma. I remember the moment that I was told I had cancer, and having to console my mother...and then break the news to all of my family members and friends. There was no time for me to be upset, because I felt somewhat guilty for upsetting people that I love dearly. The few times that I did break down were done in private, because no one would have been able to handle seeing me upset...they were having a hard enough time watching my physical deterioration from chemo and radiation. I also found that I spent much of my time making jokes about the situation, to ease the tension of having a sick person around. I only became irritated a handful of times, because I felt that people were being too selfish to realize my needs.

                              As of Sept 26th I have been in remission for a year. I was able to re-enlist in July. I will graduate from college in May. I know how fortunate I am, and appreciate/value my life (and the lives of my loved ones) immensely.

                              Additionally, I wish that all cancers got the same focus as breast cancer. I understand that my form of cancer is highly treatable, but there is no such thing as a "cure" for any cancer. I'm all about promoting the cause of the pink ribbon...but all I'm saying is to promote the Purple Ribbon - the cancer SURVIVORS ribbon - and promote all cancer research.

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                              Reply#13 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
                              julie-spouse

                              I realize October is breast cancer awareness month, but is anyone else out there suffering from compassion fatigue? I am so tired of pink ribbons. I know there are millions of breast cancer victims, and only 8,000 of us Hodgkins patients -- so how about some violet ribbons? It's supposed to be a highly curable type of cancer, patients have even been told by doctors that if they could choose which one to get, it would be HD. Crazy, right? Some folks don't even consider it cancer. I have had a recurrent form since 2001; the only time I'm sick is when I'm being treated with chemo -- otherwise, fabulous.
                              Sorry, PET scan tomorrow and check up with my oncologist next week. Always makes me nervous, edgy, panic-stricken . . .

                                Reply#14 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
                                Alice-354401

                                I didn't find this article helpful at all. What exactly is it saying? Don't show your loved one that you are scared and upset by their terrible news because they might feel they need to comfort you?

                                I think it would have been a much better article if it gave some practical advice on how to handle this news, how to support the patient and also deal honestly and most importantly, in a productive way with each other about needs/expectations/hopes/fears. Maybe assure the patient that these reactions by people who love her are to be expected but that the patient must choose where to direct her limited energy. Maybe taking responsibility for your spouse's terror and hiding your own isn't your only option.

                                Frankly, I would be extremely surprised if all the people I knew and loved turned into rocks of support just because that's what I needed at that point in time. They are who they are.

                                  Reply#15 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
                                  Diane-355876

                                  Finally - some recognition for this phenomenon! (And I'm sure breast cancer was tied to this article because of it being breast cancer month - but it does apply to all cancers.)

                                  I am currently dealing WITH the second cancer of my lifetime. Had one when I was a teenager and now a totally different cancer at the age of 52. And yes, I have to be the strong one. Some days that's a real pain. I'd just like to run and scream and stomp my feet and cry and carry on, but I can't because it will scare those around me.

                                  As they say, A WOMEN'S WORK IS NEVER DONE!

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                                  Reply#16 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
                                  Cindyshmo

                                  I was diagnosed with Triple Negative Breast Cancer earlier this year. I had a dbl mastectomy and have been doing chemo for months.....Trip.Neg. means it is not a hormore related cancer, and about75-80% of all breast cancer is related to hormones.

                                  I took a cardboard display project board and made a science project of my cancer, incl. copies of the radiology reports, pics of the MRI images, etc. I sat my entire clan down (about 14 people) on a Saturday after lunch and gave them all the news at the same time. I could not face having to tell one after another, over and over. I also knew my cancer was different than most, and wanted my family to understand what I had, why it was different from someone else they knew, etc. I also made each a booklet with info on the type of cancer I had, some info on the surgery I would have, etc. Finally, I gave each a coupon with their listed duties of how they could help me in the stages of my illness and recovery.

                                  NOTE: To the person with Lung Cancer who never smoked. Maybe 2ndhand smoke was the cause -but how can you be sure you are blaming the souce and maybe a person in your past for the illness. Raydon, a gas in the ground causes many cases of lung cancer, as well as exposure to many other things. I hope you are not bitter and blaming someone who smoked around you for all this?

                                  I am glad I faced it the way I did and think it would be good way for many to deal with announcing the news.

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                                  Reply#17 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:10 PM EDT
                                  Louisiana native101

                                  My hat off to you...what a very positive way to handle your illness!  Thank you for an idea.

                                    #17.1 - Wed Oct 8, 2008 3:19 PM EDT
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                                    birddog8

                                    I agree. I have had a nodule in my neck for over a year and recently was diagnosed as being a neck tumor (Schawnoma). And during this year I have had a dog with cancer dying that I hospice and another older dog both depressed over the loss of the other dog and now dying of both depression and old age symptoms. I have had to be the care taker, though everyone else insists they have helped- clean up vomit and feces and other messes of these poor creatures failing bodily functions, but they didn't and taking a dog out once in awhile isn't the only needs of an ill animal. I even sat with the one dog outside for his last night of seeing the stars and talked to him about it being okay to die and that I loved him ( he was one of the best dogs in the world and I think he knew I was ill too.) But I do not regret being there for them, they were there for me when humans weren't and I would never treat a dying animal worse than I would my beloved Grandmother. Putting an animal to sleep is too easy and since I do not believe even in the death penalty, how can I so carelessly take a life just for convenience. It is not easy being me, it seems to be my path and must mean something.

                                      Reply#18 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:18 PM EDT
                                      MLC-370206

                                      I am so sorry any of you have had to go through this physical and emotional trauma. I know that I can not begin to imagine what you have all been through and my heart truly goes out to you and your loved ones.

                                      I will say that I think people have a very hard time dealing with not only illness, but loss and grief as well. In many cases, others are likely scared to death of YOUR diagnosis because it scares them, or makes them uncomfortable, so in turn you are easing their pain. Our society does not deal well with this and it is unfortunate for those who are truly the ones in pain. Sometimes a simple "I am so sorry for what you have been/are going through" and a hug of support would mean the world...instead you are stocking up on tissues to comfort others who have been "inconvenienced" by your suffering.

                                      Strenght to all of you.

                                        Reply#19 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:23 PM EDT
                                        lm-598409

                                        It happened to me over & over when I was being treated for cancer 9 years ago. My parents both avoided visiting me because "we have never had a daughter with cancer before and we don't know how to act. It is too upsetting to us." !!!!!! They didn't visit me in the hospital even once after surgery and they only came to see me at home after I confronted them. It was sad. I would NEVER treat my child like that. Some other people avoided me too. I try not to dwell on it, but it is something I will always remember and it was so hurtful. By the way, I was never looking for sympathy from anyone. Just a hug (especially from my mom) and maybe a little support. No one wanted to touch me- maybe they though they might catch it!

                                        Mental illness is also an issue. I too am diagnosed with Major Depression and people are just downright weird and ignorant when it comes to mental illness. It is no different than any physical illness and sometimes worse because it is invisible. They often forget that people like me LIVE with our mental illness- there are good days and not so good days- and we are FULLY functioning members of society. I think I am actually "better" than them because at least I am aware of my strengths & weaknesses and I try to live my life to the fullest when I am well. And I won't even go into the stigma associated with psychiatric hospitalizations.....even by my family.....

                                        Also, I agree that people forget that women do have other cancers other than breast cancer. The only support groups available to me were for breast cancer. I had tongue/throat cancer. And, NO, I HAVE NEVER SMOKED A CIGARETTE, USED SMOKELESS TOBACCO OR CHEWED TOBACCO. I am always asked that...............

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                                        Reply#20 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
                                        snowy-598428

                                        its not just the women who must consul . i watched my best friend break down in my living room . i truly felt bad for him as i did for the rest of my family when i told them . its just a really misunderstood disease . the problem is that no one else knows that we dont want to be treated differently . i went to work did things tried to keep active as much as possible and that god awful chemo and radiation would allow . my friends and family soon realized that i was no different than before . it was just a medical problem i was dealing with and that if i remained positive they did too. so if a friend or family member contracts this its not a signal they will die . i was diagosed with stage 4 terminal brain lung and liver in feb 2008 as of my last scan 9\29\08 i am cancer free thanks and good luck

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                                        Reply#21 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
                                        raano

                                        I don't know if I buy the premise. This seems like a made up article just for headlines. We realize its Breast Cancer Awareness Month. How about an article that has some substance, and not just some questionnaire done in one SF university with 160 patients..

                                        Lets be clear, if anyone treats a person differently because of the type of cancer they have, then they are a moron--plain and simple.

                                        Besides, whats wrong with a loved one breaking down after hearing that someone they love has breast cancer? Seems like a human reaction to me. If someone acted cool as a cucumber after I told them, then I'd start thinking that maybe that person didn't love me.

                                          Reply#22 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:33 PM EDT
                                          Gayle-324397

                                          No it's not a "made up article". And yes, let's do be clear. (Some) People do treat you differently because of the CANCER, not necessarily just Breast Cancer. But the article is about BREAST CANCER. Sometimes I think alot of the people who treat me differently realize that I AM DIFFERENT now. I know I act and feel different than I did before I got THE CANCER. But, I think I'm a better person now. I certainly look at LIFE differently than before. I agreed with the article completely. But those of you who don't maybe just don't because you haven't experienced the situation. And that's good for you. Seriously.

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                                          #22.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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                                          orphan_cancer

                                          I guess I'm not the only one who is suffering from compassion fatigue about breast cancer. YES, we are all aware of breast cancer now. Thank God that breast cancer is highly curable now. I wish I had breast cancer instead of the rare terminal cancer that I suffer from. There are no foundations for bile duct cancer. No support groups. No pink ribbons. No 5K walks to raise money. No "buy pink" products.
                                          I like the American Cancer Society because they support the fight against ALL types of cancer and don't discriminate in favor of one or another.
                                          I'm sorry for every one who has to fight cancer of any kind. I'm a single parent, and I know that it's hard to deal with my kids and my parents who want and need me to be strong. Yet sometimes it's hard to be strong when you are suffering from the side effects of chemo or other treatments.

                                            Reply#23 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:34 PM EDT
                                            julie-spouse

                                            My husband's father passed away from bile duct cancer just two months after he was ordained a deacon and only one month after being diagnosed (sorry, that's a downer). You are in my prayers and I am sure his. I try to be strong, but my darling husband, I suppose because of his dad (bless his heart) just wants to cruise along in denial -- not even discuss the possibility of "terminal". So, there is really no choice but stay strong. You are so right about the American Cancer Society -- it was the first place I went after my diagnosis.

                                              #23.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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                                              CMG-598470

                                              I am a stage 2 uterine cancer survivor and I have to agree with Pros63 about all cancers should be treated as one. When I was first diagnosed and then going through surgery and recovery my husband and a dear friend of mine turned my diagnosis and treatment as a "Oh feel sorry for us, do you know what we are going through" thing and they had all of their friends and co-workers sending them sympathy type notes and helping them to get through the hardship of this ~ meanwhile I made it through fine and without their support as they were both so disfunctional over all of this and it truly was as if nothing was ever wrong with me. I look back at it now and just laugh and shake my head. At the time it was hard though. Now I'm grateful for all of it and I hope I will be compassionate if someone I know is ever diagnosed because before this I had no idea what an emotional struggle it is to be diagnosed with cancer and worry that you might not be around to raise your kids, now I do. Every day is a blessing from God :-)

                                                Reply#24 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:46 PM EDT
                                                froglegs7777

                                                There is a great web site that was founded by my ex wife and a friend of hers call BreastFriends.com they also have another organization called First I Cry. I lost both my grandmother and mother to breast cancer and as my mother was dying from this horrible disease my wife was diagnosed with it. As a grandson, son and husband at the time I have seen enough Oncology doctors and spent every treatment of chemo with my wife. Please take a look at the web site and if you can help support it great. My ex wife has had both breast remove one for precautionary reason and Becky her friend had a recurrence of hers. They founded this while working full time and now receive some funding from Susan Komen foundation. Take a look it will be worthy your time. Blessings to all. It is not a death sentence and to the males out there you are an intricate part of the support that needs to be there. Sharon was a hoot about losing her breasts, as she said, she never had much to start with and since she had augmentation done years before she said I am not losing anything that is mine anyhow.

                                                  Reply#25 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
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